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The Conservative Party conference starts with Sam’s story about another Reform defection.

Mark Gallagher donated to Kemi Badenoch’s leadership campaign, but the Tories claim he was never “really true blue”.

Also on this preview episode – the active operation to “get” Ms Badenoch in Manchester, as the leader confirms the Conservatives would take the UK out of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) if they got back into power.

We’ll have an extra episode on Wednesday to review Kemi Badenoch’s closing speech at the conference.